One of the things I like about the movie — my father used to say, “If you’re in the desert and you’re dying of thirst, are you going to drink a glass of blood or you going to drink a glass a water?” meaning, sometimes your very own family that you’re close to can be toxic. They take your success or your potential as a personal insult on their failure, and they beat you up or they say you’ll never make it. That’s not a glass of blood you want to drink if you’re dying of thirst in the desert. But Joe provides, like, a glass of water. He’s what I call in the abstract a “waterfather.” He becomes a surrogate father and he sees the potential in Gary.

As I said, I really enjoyed James Mangold’s version, but do you ever think what the Aronofsky version would’ve been different?

I do think about it. And he had some ideas. But, the truth be told, people say how different was this from Darren’s vision. And Darren, because of “Black Swan,” hadn’t really got into it that much. I mean, he was on it for about six months, but most of those six months was the award circuit for “Black Swan.” So, there was some ideas — the title, being one, “The Wolverine.” He was like, “There’s no way I’m making the thing called ‘Wolverine II.’” And he said, “And I want this to be different; I want it to stand alone.” And that was an idea we all embraced. But, I actually think this worked out great. Somewhere down the line, in my imagination, the film fan in me and the comic book fan — would I like to see an Aronofsky version? Probably.

Don’t ignore your dreams; don’t work too much; say what you think; cultivate friendships; be happy.

The great failing of this film is the same failing as with Walter Isaacson’s book: something happened during Steve’s NeXT years (which occupy less than a 60 seconds of this 122 minute film) that turned Jobs from a brat into a leader, but they don’t bother to cover that. In his later years Steve still wasn’t an easy guy to know but he was an easier guy to know. His gut for product was still good but his positions were more considered and thought out. He inspired workers without trying so much to dominate or hypnotize them. For years there was this running joke that Steve had changed, that he was no longer that guy who made us all uncomfortable. Then an hour or a day later he’d do something that would show he hadn’t really changed at all. And yet at some point Steve did change. It was subtle but real and it set the tone for the last 15 years of his life — the most productive 15 years of his life or that of any American executive. This film misses all of that.